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Friday, April 29, 2011

Fwd: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: sandesh <sandeshnarayane@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?
To: "Ashok T. Jaisinghani" <ashokjai@sancharnet.in>
Cc: culturalbridgesact2002@yahoo.com, palashbiswaskl@gmail.com, bhailal@aol.com, dinesh1234@gmail.com, davemakkar@yahoo.com, hindureligion@gmail.com, bjptoday@hotmail.com, fgautier26@gmail.com, savarkar_vinayak@yahoo.co.uk


Again, an unsolicited and unwanted mail. But as usual, I can't help laughing to your immature thought-process.

You say "You claim that you are an admirer of Ramdev, but you do NOT accept his ideas and beliefs! You must be joking. Can you spread his concepts if you do NOT believe in what he says and does"? I always talked about baba ramdeo in Bharat Swabhiman context, but you poor creature couldn't understand that. Grow up man, don't be childish.

Then, you make a wayward statement, "     I assume that you are one of the bigoted Brahmins who cannot give up his perverted thinking. The bigoted Brahmins insist that they are always right". Let me tell you that to your utter disbelief and dismay, I belong to what you lovingly call as scheduled caste. Surprised? Facts always aren't what you love them to be.

You continue "Why are you trying to be too smart on the issue of human skulls and bones being used in Ayurvedic medicines? You should check the Internet to know that the powdered skulls and bones of humans are really being put in Ayurvedic medicines by Ramdev's Pharmacy and other Ayurvedic pharmaceutical companies". Why should I check the internet? And where does this relate to Bharat Swabhiman?

You ask "Why should I go to any court to file a case against this practice, when the Indian laws permit such a use of powdered skulls and bones of humans in Ayurvedic preparations"? again, you are either immature or trying playing with words unsuccessfully. I didn't ask you to sue against these practices but advised to bring baba ramdeo to the court since he is violating all the rules and regulations laid by Shri Ashok Jaisinghani.

Then you say "Only a crank like you can joke about appealing to all the citizens of India to make Mr. Ashok T. Jaisinghani the next Prime Minister, just because I am critical of Ramdev. I have never claimed to have any political following". Am I joking? Really?

Then you continue "Are the people and the political parties of India so ignorant that they are going to overlook the claims and aspirations to the post of Prime Minister of well-known political leaders like Mayawati, Jayalalithaa, Narendra Modi, Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jetley, Rahul Gandhi, Nitish Kumar, Mulayam Singh Yadav, etc"? if you know I'm joking, then why are you asking such questions? Are you serious of being prime minister of this nation?

You talked about on the subject of Buddhists and Sikhs, which is totally irrelevant to this thread, you are repeating it, I can't help that.

You continue "It is clear that you are a crank who believes that he is only a subscriber and not a member of the United Hindu Front discussion group. Why does the UHF circulate your emails, if you are not a member of that discussion group"? on any mailing list, subscriber and member is same, don't you know this simple fact? And again, if you are not willing, why don't you unsubscribe from that list? Is anybody forcing you to stay there? Why are you wasting your precious time on such list?

Lastly, let me be very clear I'm receiving your unsolicited mails and articles on my e-mail id. Stop it immediately.

Sandesh

----- Original Message -----
To: sandesh
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?

Human Skulls & Bones in Ayurvedic Medicines
 
Smart Guy Sandesh,
 
    You claim that you are an admirer of Ramdev, but you do NOT accept his ideas and beliefs! You must be joking. Can you spread his concepts if you do NOT believe in what he says and does?
 
    I assume that you are one of the bigoted Brahmins who cannot give up his perverted thinking. The bigoted Brahmins insist that they are always right.
 
    Why are you trying to be too smart on the issue of human skulls and bones being used in Ayurvedic medicines? You should check the Internet to know that the powdered skulls and bones of humans are really being put in Ayurvedic medicines by Ramdev's Pharmacy and other Ayurvedic pharmaceutical companies. Why should I go to any court to file a case against this practice, when the Indian laws permit such a use of powdered skulls and bones of humans in Ayurvedic preparations? I have just questioned the hypocritical belief in vegetarianism by Ramdev and the other Hindus who have been using such Ayurvedic medicines, which contain substances like powdered skulls and bones of humans.
 
    Only a crank like you can joke about appealing to all the citizens of India to make Mr. Ashok T. Jaisinghani the next Prime Minister, just because I am critical of Ramdev. I have never claimed to have any political following.
 
    Are the people and the political parties of India so ignorant that they are going to overlook the claims and aspirations to the post of Prime Minister of well-known political leaders like Mayawati, Jayalalithaa, Narendra Modi, Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jetley, Rahul Gandhi, Nitish Kumar, Mulayam Singh Yadav, etc? 
 
    On the subject of Buddhists and Sikhs, what can the RSS and the other Hindus do if many of the Buddhists and Sikhs declare that they belong to separate communities? Can they force all the Buddhists and Sikhs to call themselves Hindus? Calling the Buddhists and Sikhs as Hindus is definitely the logic of a person who does not accept the facts that are so obvious.
 
    It is clear that you are a crank who believes that he is only a subscriber and not a member of the United Hindu Front discussion group. Why does the UHF circulate your emails, if you are not a member of that discussion group?
 
    As you have finally acknowledged that you are a lunatic, you should be in a Mental Hospital. As I have mainly done research in Nutrition, and don't own any hospital, you should yourself find out a suitable Mental Hospital, which can treat you for your madness.
 
   Ashok  T. Jaisinghani.
    Editor & Publisher:
www.Wonder-Cures.com
www.Nutritionist-No-1.com
www.Top-Nut.com    Top Nutritionist
www.SindhiKalakar.com  
 
_________________________
 
----- Original Message -----
From: sandesh
Sent: 24 Apr 2011 12:49 AM
Subject: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?

This is another nonsense garbage!
 
here you write "If you claim to admire and follow Ramdev, and if you accept him as your Guru, you should also accept his beliefs as your own". now, tell me when did i state that he is my guru? again, just chuckling. because you are doing the same thing of making your own statements and selling them on my name, keep it up!

your views seem brainless to me, why can't i be admirer of Baba ramdeo? someday, if you develop some unique concept which i like, it's my natural duty to make it known to all. this is that simple, i suppose, you got it now! if not, nobody can help you.

you continue "Besides the use of cow's urine and dung in many of his preparations, some of Ramdev's medicines contain powdered skulls and bones of humans". really? Ha Ha Ha! this is nothing but example of pure jealousy of Ramdeo. now, tell me why are you wasting your time of yours and mine? go to court and sue Ramdeo for all that stuff. isn't it that easy?

you further say "anyone like Ramdev, who practises a form of cannibalism, be fit to lead modern India in any manner"? you are right, let's all appeal to all citizens of this nation to make Mr. Ashok T. Jaisinghani the next prime minister of Bharat. happy? you should now be!

next, you say "A hypocrite like Ramdev can never remove corruption from India because he is himself a dishonest person". thanks for the certificate you gave to Baba Ramdeo. that's why i repeat, let's all appeal to each and every citizen of this nation to make Mr. pious Ashok T. Jaisinghani "the great" the next PM of Bharat. this sounds fantastic now! bharat would be greatful, right?

now you state "Instead of understanding the tragic consequences of the reasons why millions of Hindus are becoming Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists, lunatics like you want to continue laughing". I'm Lunatic, what a great label you have stuck to my name! thanks alot. thanks for the good joke also. now, tell me what should i do? please read my above proposal of making Mr. Jaisinghani the next prime minister of Bharat.

then you continue "Lunatics like you who laugh at such serious matters should be in a Mental Hospital". you are wrong here! actually, you should say people like me (sorry sorry, Lunatics like me) should be admitted to the hospital of the greatest wonder curer Mr. Ashok Jaisinghani! i think, i'm right here at least.

you ask "How can anyone prove that the Buddhists and Sikhs do not belong to separate communities, when they do NOT worship the Hindu Gods and Goddesses"? i think Charvakas wer nonbelievers of god, still they were Hindus.

then you ask "Why don't you read the articles of DALIT VOICE to find out what the Dalit writers think about the dogmatic Hindus like you"? how could i read such magazines when i receive and read your nice mails? "dogmatic", another great name, thanks for this too!

you further say "The Dalit leaders are working all the time for aligning the people of Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Castes with the Muslims, Christians and Communists to make the higher caste Hindus become a hopeless minority in India". have you heard the name of RSS? if not, please study the efforts they are making to keep all the Hindus (including the Dalits) united all the time. glorify their tireless work instead of making foolish statements here.

now, again, i can't help laughing at your question "Why does your discussion group, the United Hindu Front, keep sending unwanted emails to me? The cranks like you, who belong to the United Hindu Front, certainly lack the courage to accept the facts for what they are". who told you it's my group? i'm just one of it's member. and who prevented you from unsubscribing from it? as a great modern person, you must be knowing the technique of unsubscribing from any google group. if you don't know, a Lunatic and dogmatic like me is ready to help you out in this regard.

now, you say "You are completely blind to reality. Why don't you accept the fact that the Hindus have already become a minority of the total population of India, due to which an Italian called Sonia Gandhi is ruling our country"? o o, i thought people gave them mandate to rule. and in 1998/2004, when BJP (i mean NDA) got power, Hindus were majority community, and since 2004, when Sonia got power, it became minority? great logic! now, think who is blind to reality?

you say "Hindu Politicians are Most Corrupt Leaders". i think these include Mr. Jetli, Shrimati Swaraj, and so on. is it really so?

further, you comment "The treacherous Hindu leaders in the Congress Party are licking the boots of Sonia Gandhi because they are mainly interested in making money through any means". now, you seem to be on the right track.

then you say "Such Hindu politicians are the most corrupt fellows in the world who can sell even their country for the sake of money". do you really think they have left anything to be sold now?

you say "It is not surprising that such Hindu religious beliefs have made many Hindu leaders to become the most dangerous traitors who are many times worse than even Sonia Gandhi". true again, but just think is it really due to Hindu beleifs?

with regards from a Lunatic
Sandesh
 
_________________________
 
----- Original Message -----    
To: sandesh
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?
 
Ramdev Practises a Form of Cannibalism
 
    If you claim to admire and follow Ramdev, and if you accept him as your Guru, you should also accept his beliefs as your own. So like the crank called Ramdev, you should also logically believe in drinking cow's urine and in eating cow-dung. How can you be admiring and following Ramdev without accepting the beliefs and practices of that quack?
 
    You should just find out what Ramdev puts in his Ayurvedic medicines. Besides the use of cow's urine and dung in many of his preparations, some of Ramdev's medicines contain powdered skulls and bones of humans.
 
    Let me repeat that some of Ramdev's medicines contain powdered skulls and bones of humans. The consumption of such parts of the human bodies may be considered as a form of cannibalism.
 
    So Ayurveda, which is part of the Vedas, advocates a form of cannibalism. Why should a quack like Ramdev, who practises a form of cannibalism, claim to believe in vegetarianism? How can anyone like Ramdev, who practises a form of cannibalism, be fit to lead modern India in any manner?
 
    A hypocrite like Ramdev can never remove corruption from India because he is himself a dishonest person.
 
    Instead of understanding the tragic consequences of the reasons why millions of Hindus are becoming Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists, lunatics like you want to continue laughing. Is it a laughing matter for you to know that the Hindus have become a minority of the total population of India? Lunatics like you who laugh at such serious matters should be in a Mental Hospital.
 
    How can anyone prove that the Buddhists and Sikhs do not belong to separate communities, when they do NOT worship the Hindu Gods and Goddesses?
 
    The cranks like you should read the online version of DALIT VOICE, www.dalitvoice.org, edited by V T Rajshekar, according to whom the higher caste Hindus form only 15 per cent of the total population of India. Why don't you read the articles of DALIT VOICE to find out what the Dalit writers think about the dogmatic Hindus like you? 
 
    The Dalit leaders are working all the time for aligning the people of Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes and Other Backward Castes with the Muslims, Christians and Communists to make the higher caste Hindus become a hopeless minority in India.
 
    Why does your discussion group, the United Hindu Front, keep sending unwanted emails to me? The cranks like you, who belong to the United Hindu Front, certainly lack the courage to accept the facts for what they are. You are completely blind to reality. Why don't you accept the fact that the Hindus have already become a minority of the total population of India, due to which an Italian called Sonia Gandhi is ruling our country?
 
Hindu Politicians are Most Corrupt Leaders

    The treacherous Hindu leaders in the Congress Party are licking the boots of Sonia Gandhi because they are mainly interested in making money through any means. Such Hindu politicians are the most corrupt fellows in the world who can sell even their country for the sake of money.

    The corrupt Hindu politicians are there in the Congress Party because Sonia Gandhi allows them to remain corrupt and make massive amounts of money by taking big bribes. If she were ever to prevent them from making money, they would immediately turn against her.

    For the corrupt Hindu leaders, there is nothing more important than getting Money by any means. So Lakshmi is truly the greatest Goddess who is worshipped by the corrupt Hindu politicians.

    Can the Hindu leaders, or even the other common Hindus, be prevented from worshipping Goddess Lakshmi? It is not surprising that such Hindu religious beliefs have made many Hindu leaders to become the most dangerous traitors who are many times worse than even Sonia Gandhi.
 
   Ashok  T. Jaisinghani.
    Editor & Publisher:
www.Wonder-Cures.com
www.Nutritionist-No-1.com
www.Top-Nut.com    Top Nutritionist
www.SindhiKalakar.com  

_________________________
 
----- Original Message -----
From: sandesh
Sent: 22 Apr 2011 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?

you are asking "Why are Millions of Hindus becoming

Christians, Muslims & Marxists"?

 

for this, you have given irrelevnt answers, i just pity your thinking, and of course, can't help laughing. please study all religions and then make wayward statements.

 

You further say "    It is well-known that the whole world is laughing at the Hindus because of the cranks and quacks who advocate that the Hindus should drink the stinking urine and eat the dirty dung of cows. Because of extremely smart cranks like you, millions of Hindus are giving up their religion every year to become Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists. The fellows like you just cannot get such facts in your smart heads". Again, can't help laughing. When did I say about drinking cow urine and dung? Or you are smart at making your own statements and saling the same on others' names? If this is your habit, then again, I can't help. To your such meaningless sentences, I would only say that you just live in your own world of making accusations without seeing whether the person you respond really said something or not. All the best to you for your paradise.

 

Next, your more rubbish sentences: "The Hindus of modern times prefer to eat meat, fish, chicken and eggs rather than drink cow's urine and eat cow-dung. So millions of Hindus are becoming Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists every year". Are these really reasons? Or here also, you are expert in creating your own causes and selling them on others' names?

 

You further say "The majority of Dalits of the lower castes do not wish to call themselves as Hindus". Wrong again, in fact, I've seen many such so-called Dalit and SC proudly stating that "they are Hindus". Please stop making stupid statements.

 

Going next, you assume "If we consider the Buddhists and Sikhs as separate communities, the Hindus are already in a minority in the total population of India. Why do fellows like you don't care to accept such facts"? Hindus in Bharat and in minority? Please check with yourself.

 

I'm really not interested in furthering such discussions without any doubt. What objectionable statements did I make? In fact, it's you who is vomiting like anything. I just gave the true information to the group, you started writing to me without even asking my permission.

 

Let me repeat I'm not interested in furthering this discussion, but after seeing your dirty mails, the reason is now different. And that is it's my insult to correspond with people having uncivilized way of everything and imposing that on others.

 

Finally, I won't reply even if you write now with more abusive words since I understood what kind of mental makeup you possess. So, you are free to say anything against me at your will.

 

Love and Regards

 

Jay Hind

Sandesh

 

----- Original Message -----
To: sandesh
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:49 PM
Subject: Why are Millions of Hindus becoming Christians, Muslims and Marxists?
 
Why are Millions of Hindus becoming
Christians, Muslims & Marxists?
 
    It is well-known that the whole world is laughing at the Hindus because of the cranks and quacks who advocate that the Hindus should drink the stinking urine and eat the dirty dung of cows. Because of extremely smart cranks like you, millions of Hindus are giving up their religion every year to become Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists. The fellows like you just cannot get such facts in your smart heads.
 
    The young well-informed Hindus of the modern world don't want to be told daily by quacks like Ramdev that they should drink cow's urine and eat cow-dung. The Hindus of modern times prefer to eat meat, fish, chicken and eggs rather than drink cow's urine and eat cow-dung. So millions of Hindus are becoming Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists every year.
 
    The majority of Dalits of the lower castes do not wish to call themselves as Hindus. If we consider the Buddhists and Sikhs as separate communities, the Hindus are already in a minority in the total population of India. Why do fellows like you don't care to accept such facts?
 
    You have stated that you were not interested in furthering this discussion, then why have you been sending your emails containing objectionable remarks?
 
   Ashok  T. Jaisinghani.
 
 



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